another opinion

another opinion of the subject

why is mike not dealing with rat that set him up

heard again from CPS

they tried to talk to Mike (kz8o)

he was not very helpfull to say the least

mosty f-bombs and threats ( don't know who was threatened)

so they contacted me for a more detailed report

Id advise mike to try and cooperate since someone is setting him by pushing at me till I had to report him

kz8o outed as being gay

this guest blogger extends his sympathy to the lastest target of the gay basing bigotry of K3vr and his crowd

one can only wonder what happened to cause such a falling out

to newly out Mike I extend my condolences and I utterly comend your asume former freined K3vr foir his dastardly action against you

Mie I honestly don't if your reading thisbut...

threatening to murder me for turning you into to the FCC is not going to help you

one because I ad nothing to do with what ever current proble you have (this may cahnge soon but not at the moment

two it is a crime in and of itself

so you or your freind might want to rethink

breaking news

Kz8o was heard on the air complaing that Laura smith of the FC has told him he was set up by karol after some 14 yo

amsuing if true

stay tuned to this blog for updates as they become avable

• Before Mikey "The Bigot" attacked your Polish friends, he was attacking the Latino's. He was up to his old antics this morning on 14.313 telling the Latino's that they were and I quote, "Brown like his Shit." KZ80 is a Bottom Feeding Human Excrement Sucking Douche Bag Puke Chuck.......and you may quote me Karol and I hope you do.

Doug NR5T about Mike KZ8O/nd8v [whose MO he has observed for decades] private e-mail 5 Mar ‘08

• There is only a handful of them and I am pretty sure that if the top two or three get fines and get their equipment confiscated, the rest just may get the hint and stop the nonsense. I have seen pictures of these jerks and I don't think one of them has a job or looks like anyone would hire them to even flip hamburgers so a loss of a few hundred/thousand dollars of equipment would be quite a setback.

Shawn KD0AFK [no friend of mine] in “The problem with the ARRL” on eHAM.net 31 Jan ‘08

• I accidentally landed on 275 the other day…. I heard someone talking. Then nothing for around 20 minutes. Then I heard a Latino gentleman call CQ…. I replied and we QSO'ed for a bit…. Then in the middle of the guy's third QSO, I heard some jerk start to call CQ over him. Didn't ask if the frequency was clear or anything. When asked why he didn't follow gentleman's rules of conduct, he uttered a filthy word, made a snide comment about the guys nationality and told him that with a radio as bad as his he didn't deserve to be a ham. I broke in stated my call sign and tried to defend the guy. I know I shouldn't have but it was painful to listen to. The Latino ham moved up to 277.5 and KZ8O moved over to 277.5 and started in again Walking on the guy. [Listen to the clips!]

Shawn KD0AFK [no friend of mine, I assure you] in “The problem with the ARRL” on eHAM.net 31 Jan ‘08

• This would have been a great contest if the bands would have been in a bit better shape, and the FCC would do something about KZ8O (ex ND8V) who I found going up and down the band around 14.275 running off anyone trying to operate near "his" frequency. I felt sorry for the N7 station that was on 14.278 into a good run only to have KZ8O start calling him a "scumbag" for about 5 minutes until the N7 station had to move.

Steve KT0DX [no friend of mine] in “[3830] NAQP SSB KT0DX Single Op LP” on contesting.com 20 Jan ‘08

• To say there was a bit of bias involved is like saying KZ8O just needs a couple of days at finishing school.

ToeJoe N9PH in “Hollingsworth to Stay Put at FCC” on eHAM.net 2 Nov ‘07

BTW, I’ve heard the term “Rag CQ’ing” as an acronym to describe someone who is constantly calling CQ just to cause interference. I have just run across someone who is using “Rag Calling” to do the same. Calling the same station over and over and over [KI4LUB and/or N8JOX who his neighbour!], just to cause interference to some Hispanic stations next door [14.277] to “his” frequency [14.275]. And again, it's being done by a ham that Riley has let off the hook dozens of times [KZ8O/nd8v].

Bill WA8MEA in “Riley Hollingsworth, K4ZDH, Special Counsel, Retires” on eHAM.net 26 Oct ‘07

There are quite a few folks that continue to get away with repeated violations, while smaller offenders are treated like terrorists. It's the weirdest enforcement I've ever seen anywhere....

Ed KB3JGU in “State of play, Why all the QRM in the DX portions” on QRZ.com 20 Oct ‘07

I no longer wonder how 8O got an amateur license. Now I wonder how he got a CB license. He is perhaps the worst amateur in the history of amateur radio.

ToeJoe N9PH in “The Official VE7KFM and K1MAN Thread” on QRZ.com 27 Aug ‘07

Hopefully he can nail the obscene and un-amateur like hams on 14.275. Such as W4NTI, KZ8O, and company.

Dave K8TEE in “Riley Changes his mind!” on QRZ.com 10 Oct ‘07

You need to let go of that idea. It's crowding out all the good thoughts that are trying to make it to the front of your brain. I talked to Karol one (1) time in my life. Not twice, but once. Mikee sounds like a CBer trapped in a time warp circa 1972. And you guys say I'm not real.

Joe N9PH to Bob NA4BH [Mikee’s buddy] in “K1MAN and N9OGL…” on QRZ.com 20 Aug ‘07

I was especially ashamed (as an American) of the comment made one day when a South African was on or near 14275 and he had a little pile-up going. Of course, the man in Kalamazoo can't have anyone on or near HIS frequency. So he picks a fight with the South African, stating; "The only thing you people in Africa have ever done for us is given us niggers and AIDS!"

Bill WA8MEA [no friend of mine] about Mikee KZ8O/nd8v in “Dayton Hamvention 2007” on eHAM.net 10 Jul ‘07

• Uncool things: Wide, mushy, bassy audio... Misadjusted amps that splatter... The "Pig Farmer" [KZ8O/nd8v] on 14.275 running multiple kilowatts to talk across the street [N8JOX], who fired up and told me that he didn’t care if I was there and wanted to finish my QSO before I relinquished the frequency. His quote: "Too bad, this frequency is mine every Sunday at 2, contester, now go away!". This “gentleman” has fun by recording contest station exchanges and playing them back to unsuspecting stations.

Luis W3VR ‘nailing’ Fat Mikee KZ8O’s MO in arrl.org/contests/soapbox 28 Nov ‘06

• Interesting....
  
  I note the repeated comments as to 'why it took the FCC so long to act' and when it might seriously consider tackling the handful of world-wide "embarrassments" heard on HF for example....
  
  In this regard I note with interest the otherwise unremarkable/innocuous comments by W4KHR on 6 May and believe that he was referring to ND8V a.k.a. Mikee and his well-documented misdeeds in the middle of the 20m Band....
  
  Look ND8V up on the Internet generally and/or on the ARRL FCC Enforcement Logs [http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/] in particular, to get a glimpse of this truly "Ugly American". Before anyone tries to jump down my throat, I am an American by choice, not by accident of birth, HI. Also look up early versions of the investigative/opinion article about him entitled "The Life of Riley" on the Internet generally or, better yet, drop me a short e-mail at N9VTB@Yahoo.com and I'll send you the latest annotated version thereof....
  
  In light of my experience with ND8V--and Riley Hollingsworth K4ZDH--I can not help but think that this may in part be selective enforcement at the FCC.... Before anyone again tries to jump down my throat, let me say clearly that Jack should obviously answer for his actions. To the extent that Jack's case will be in front of a semi-impartial adjudicator [unlike the Kangaroo Court a.k.a. 'Trial By Press Release' run by Riley], he will presumably have the opportunity of full answer and defense.
  
  Speaking of defense, if anyone reading this knows Jack and/or his attorney, have him/them contact me. I would be happy to share my experience--and shoe-boxes of correspondence and audio-recordings--on the ND8V file with him/them.
  
  73
  Geo.
  N9VTB@Yahoo.com

Geo. N9VTB cogent in “Jack Gerritsen Arrested” on QRZ.com 12 May ‘05

On December 14, 2004, we sent a letter to you enclosing a complaint against the operation of your station on November 21, 2004, on 14.269 MHz. We also sent you a digital recording of the communications referenced in the complaint. The complaint alleges deliberate interference to ongoing communications, that you claimed to be operating a net, and that you used a false call sign, "VE7KFM." Also on the recording a voice that appears to be yours states "See how big my signal is? I will head hunt you the rest of the weekend." A preliminary analysis of the recording, in comparison with known recordings of your station, indicates that it is your voice on the recording…. You were requested to address the allegations, with a written and notarized statement…. Your reply dated January 21, 2005, was not notarized and did not fully address the complaint. As a result, you are requested to provide the following information within 20 days of receipt of this letter…. Your response must be in writing, signed, dated and notarized. [The last emphasis was in the original. The requirement that the response be notarized was unprecedented!]

Riley to Mikee see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2005/0219.html 31 Jan ‘05

Enclosed is a copy of a letter issued to you on December 14, 2004. The letter enclosed a recording of transmissions from your station on November 21, 2004, in which you engage in deliberate interference and threats of continuing interference. You claim that although you received the letter, you did not receive the recording…. You are reminded that your response must be written and notarized.

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2005/0205.html 11 Jan ‘05

Enclosed is a complaint against the operation of your station on November 21, 2004, on 14.269 MHz. Also enclosed is a digital recording of the communications referenced in the complaint. The complaint alleges deliberate interference to ongoing communications, that you claimed to be operating a net, and that you used a false call sign "VE7KFM." Also on the recording a voice that appears to be yours states, "See how big my signal is? I will head hunt you the rest of the weekend." A preliminary analysis of the recording, in comparison with known recordings of your station, indicates that it is your voice on the recording…. Accordingly, you are requested to address the allegations, with a written and notarized statement, within 20 days of receipt of this letter. Enclosures: 2 pages, CD

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2005/0123.html 14 Dec ‘04

The problem I have is there are about 3 to 6 so called "hams" that hang around MAN's published frequencies waiting for his broadcast to start. Then they start bitching about MAN QRM'ing them. The main problem on 20M is Fat Ass Mikey ND8V … not K1MAN. Keep in mind, I DO NOT support K1MAN, but at the same time I damn sure DO NOT support what … the Kalamazoo Cuckoo (ND8V) [is] doing either. If Mikey and friends don't like what is going on, on 14.275, well like Fat Ass Mikey likes to say, "Turn the damn dial".

QrZdoTKoM in “Re: Riley to K1MAN..."No sell" re: Fat Ass Mikey ND8V, and Dumbass” on talkabout network 17 Nov ‘04

• Are you talking to me, toughguy? You think you are the only bad ass on the planet? Think again, farmboy.
  ************************
  MICHAEL E GUERNSEY, SR *
  2026 travis rd. *
  parchment MI 49004 *
  ************************
  Soon I will have your GPS co-ordinates and then will hand them over to the military so they can dial in your fat ass for a strike.

Al KC4EOE in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 11 Oct ‘03

• YOUR A BALLLESS PUNK dont let that little ride stop you come right on over I got something for ya boy...

Mikee ND8V CB terms of endearment to Al KC4EOE in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 9 Oct ‘03

• I have listened to the fat assed bully in Kalamazoo for years. I only wish I lived closer so I could drive over and whip him like the dog he is. As far as his toadies go, they are left over wannabe's from the old days who each suffer from severe mental disorders or post war syndrome…. I knew this whole FCC Enforcement thing was a sham from the beginning.

Al KC4EOE in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 9 Oct ‘03

• Yep, this is definitely the same guy I taped QRMing some kid from Connecticut on Field Day.
  Fortunately, web browsers come with scroll bars.

Ralph K0RFD about ND8V in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 2 Oct ‘03

• Obviously everything that has been said about Mikey (ND8V) is true.
  The good news is that as long as he is making a fool of himself here, he's not on the HF Bands, embarrassing the United States in front of the whole world!

Kent KB9YZL in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 2 Oct ‘03

• From: "mike guernsey"
  To: n9vtb@yahoo.com
  Subject: apology
  Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 21:56:38 -0400
  
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  george im am apoligizing for the things I have said and done it was wrong and I hope we can start over. I ment no harm to you this on the air antics is not good again im am sorry i hope you will accept my apology. thank you mike nd8v

Geo. N9VTB in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 1 Oct ‘03

• "Cut Riley some slack. He's doing the best job he can (and a good one at that) in an underfunded operation"
  Yeah, right. Let's see.. One agent, one radio, one night with one tape recorder parked in front of the QTH of this moron ND8V (what...nobody knows where he lives? Is triangulation dead? Is QRZ offline?)

Ted KC5NYJ in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 29 Sep ‘03

• And I thought this thread was going to be all about the effort to get k1man off the air, which in itself has been a very long-running thorn in the side of the U.S. HF hamatuer scene. It instead becomes a hideous noveletta about a group of morons who QRM k1man and then go on to fight with some other ops who chanced to operate nearby to 14.275??
  I can kindof sortof see looking the other way at guys who are attacking a large offender ie: k1man, but they can't even keep their attention focused there.

HAMFAN in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 28 Sep ‘03

• Since I don't frequent the HF Bands, I haven't had the "pleasure" of hearing firsthand from the people that are mentioned in this article.
  However, if all of this is true, then it seems to me that all you Extras and Generals need to clean your own house before you start moaning about the occasional ex-CBer who gets a "No Code Tech" license.......At least they tend to be only a local embarrassment, not international!

Kent KB9YZL in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 28 Sep ‘03

is KZ8O behind this latest and most bizare attack on the kosher ham

here is the reporting further it seems to maybe trace out of Kzoo michigan and theonly party in this

Is kz8o is he behind it? I don't know
is he being set up by his foes to appear guilty? I don't know
is is he being set up to look guilty by his friends? (and does he know and support such an effort if it is happening?) again I don't know


if you feel calling my wife a shemale in an effort to harm my sales a bad thing consider buying something at the shop or just

some amount of your choice

we interupt this blog

for a tea party account return ing now to your regularly skeded blog

• The FCC on October 17, 2000, sent a Warning Notice to Extra licensee Michael E. Guernsey Sr, ND8V, and threatened the licensee with revocation and suspension proceedings. The Notice cited "monitoring information and complaints before the Commission" alleging that the licensee had caused deliberate interference on 20 meters "particularly communications of Hispanic operators and truckers when you perceived them to have an improperly 'wide' SSB signal or a signal which in your opinion exhibited excessive microphone gain,"…. The FCC said it's heard allegations that the licensee may have used profanity and obscenity on the air and that he may not have identified by call sign. "Information further indicates that on April 20, 2000, you deliberately interfered with communications in progress between the Maritime Mobile Service Net and a maritime station on 14.319 MHz."…. On October 2 and 13 … the licensee "apparently transmitted on 14.310 and 14.313 MHz with a signal not identified by call sign and deliberately interfered with ongoing communications, using profanity and obscenity.”… The operation described "is contrary to the basis and purpose" of the Amateur Service, and if it recurs, the FCC intended to designate Guernsey's station license for revocation and his operator license for suspension for the remainder of its term.

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2000/1027.html 17 Oct ‘00

• Funny how a few of the same troublemakers from 14.313 are STILL up to their old habits on 20 mtrs. and none get their ticket pulled…. I guess the remainder of the so called "Goodfellas" are looking for a different fight and choose to side up with Mikee up in 8 land to feud and destroy 20 mtrs. Some of these characters are also of the same mindset on 75 mtrs. at night and proclaim "ownership" to certain frequencies they happen to operate on…. Why will Riley make a big deal out of repeater violations and other vhf squabbles and matters, but seems to look the other way when known troublemakers do their thing for years and years? Selective enforcement perhaps? Makes one wonder doesn’t it?

Richard KE4ZHN in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 27 Sep ‘03

• On several occasions I have heard ND8V transmitting on 14.275.
  Has Mikey escaped from radio prison?
  Has he been furloed??
  Is he thumbing his nose at the FCC???
  Has his brain turned to tapioca pudding???
  Is he the latest KC5WHN????
  Has anyone ANY information.
  Has anyone half a brain??

David KB1EVE [now WA1BHV] in “ND8V” on RadioBanter.com 11 Jul ‘03

• Ok, so this idiot [ND8V now KZ8O] has had no less then 7 letters from the commission.... WHY does he still even have a ticket? What must someone do to get booted? Obviously this guy isn’t capable of acting like an adult on the air, so why not just pull his ticket and be done with it?

“HAMDUDE” in “FCC Alleges Michigan Ham Engaged in Deliberate Interference, Threats:” on eHAM 26 Apr ‘03

Under separate cover the Commission is forwarding to you a recording of transmissions from your station on March 26, 2003, on the 20-meter amateur band. These transmissions consisted of threats to another amateur operator, deliberate transmissions (calling "CQ") on top of ongoing communications even while acknowledging those communications, broadcasting, and deliberate interference…. Since December 2002, we have received complaints about deliberate interference from your station on the 20-meter amateur band. The operation of your station over the last several years raises questions about your qualifications to remain a Commission licensee. While some of the interference results from personal disputes or from what you apparently perceive as deliberate interference to your station from other stations, you have apparently ignored our written and verbal warnings not to retaliate by on-the-air counter-interference. The tape that you will receive indicates that on March 26, 2003, you made repeated personal threats to another operator and in spite of acknowledging transmissions from the other station on the air, proceeded to transmit on top of his communications even after you had terminated your earlier communications--those that you apparently felt were interfered with. You apparently perceived that his interference to your earlier transmissions was deliberate. Whether that was the case, deliberate retaliatory threats and transmissions on top of the communications are against Commission rules, and indicate that the numerous warnings to date have little, if any, effect in regarding to bringing your operation into compliance with Commission rules. [N.B. The 1^st infraction/”Warning Notice” listed by Riley was on 4 Nov ’98—before the formal Logs begin!]

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2003/0419.html 7 Apr ‘03

• I logged my time on the band (14.275.00) at 1200utc/march26 and I heard you loud and clear having a qso with ve7kfm, your signal is about 5by8 but ve7kfm is slightly weaker. I clearly heard you first on the band before nd8v started calling cq without even calling if the frequency is in use.

Elmer AC7EI to Geo. N9VTB cc Riley 26 Mar ‘03

The Commission continues to receive complaints about your appropriation of certain frequencies, and your interference to certain operators who attempt to use them. The frequencies complained about are 14.262, 14.275 and various other frequencies on the 20 Meter Amateur band. You are reminded that frequencies in the Amateur Service are shared…. You have been advised before regarding such incidents, specifically on November 14, 2000. We also note that your authority to operate below 30 MHz was removed on that date as well, for a period of nine months. You were also issued a Warning Notice concerning the same issue on May 20, 2002. This is the last warning you will receive in regard to operation of ND8V. Any future incidents of such operation, even a single incident, will result in a monetary forfeiture and revocation proceedings against your license. We also request that you refrain from operation on the 20 Meter Amateur Band until these matters are resolved.

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2002/1224.html 25 Nov ‘02

april fool

hi mike

• ND8V is the worst Amateur Radio operator I have ever encountered. I was first licensed in 1951.

Jack W7EJJ [a retired attorney] to Riley 6 Nov ‘02

• We have had trouble with ND8V … jamming … and causing deliberate interference. During our net [ND8V now KZ8O] keys over stations checking in, he starts out saying that our signals are wide, he then goes one kc above and begins calling CQ and continues to initiate calls to other stations who never come back to him. He has stated that he will shut us down. Any attempt to reason with him has been unsuccessful.

Chuck WB5AYW Net Control, Connecticut Mobileers, to Riley 1 Oct ‘02

On October 1, 2001, we sent copies of complaints to you that had been filed concerning the operation of your Amateur station ND8V requested a response…. You responded by letter dated December 18, 2001, but your response was unsigned. On March 6, 2002, we returned your response for signature. In a telephone conversation on April 22, 2002, you were reminded to sign and return the letter. We have not received the letter…. If no answer is received to our October 1, 2001 inquiry by June 15, 2002, we will initiate enforcement action against your station and operator licenses…. This is the last warning you will receive about this matter.

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2002/0601.html 20 May ‘02

• Mike ND8V] is like a Donkey or Mule, You have to hit him in the head with a hammer for him to get it.

William NX9J to Riley 19 Dec ‘01

another shot

form as the (ham) world turns


My blood is thinned out from Florida and I am going to have to light a fire in the living room to keep the xyl toasty....It's great to be back in New England. Today I am going to hook the ham gear and give a listen to 14275- the hotbed of poor operating activity. It appears the new sheriff in town is talking a big story- she is not going to put up with that shit on 20 meters. I believe Riley said the same thing and nothing happened. A good start would be to permanently close down the Michigan station that has been qrm'ing and playing tapes for years! 14275 used to be kind of entertaining in the days of W2OTK and company, now it is a true embarrassment. It's funny because a lot of the hams that visit the frequency are first class guys that got caught up in the bs....I bet they finally say screw it and find a new frequency and let the clusterfucks stay behind on 14275 and self destruct. I can safely say the FCC enforcement team is not going to fix it.

The reason Riley don't do anything, and I know it hard for some of you ham operators to understand this, but RILEY ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN!! it was a simple BULLSHIT job by Riley to push the idea that the problem was the Guy from Canada, and those that talk to him. But the truth is the problem are the ham operators in the United States that push the idea that they can push someone off a frequency because they don't like his speech. No sir, Like ALL JACKASS HAM RADIO OPERATOR you were feed a lie, and it's hard for people like YOU to understand that. If Riley WOULD of done something, he would of told those US hams like KZ8O, K3VR, N1GJT, N1FM, W7CPA and others STOP from QRMING that moron in Canada, but no they didn't, in fact YOUR buddy Brian Crow K3VR went to QRZ.COM and claimed it was perfectly legal to malicious interfere with him and other that talk to him. The difference between ASSHOLES like Riley and Smith, she had the fucking balls to say enough is enough...but hey asshole ham operators can't understand the fact the problem isn't Canada, but here in the US.

• I think Mike has not and will not change, in spite of the 2^nd chance you gave him by allowing him to return to HF in September…. he feels he has the right to start fights…. If unchecked, he will escalate. That is his pattern.

Nedra KK5PN to Riley 21 Nov ‘01

Enclosed are complaints against your station regarding operation on September 26, 2001. The complaints allege that you disrupted communications on 14.315 MHz after you perceived interference from operators on that frequency to your communications on 14.313 MHz. The complaints indicate that you threatened the other Amateurs with retaliation both on and off the air.

Riley to Mike see http://www.arrl.org/news/enforcement_logs/2001/1006.html 1 Oct ‘01

• I’d vote to get him thrown off forever. He is crude, rude and a disgrace to the hobby.

Len K2IVX to Riley about Mike ND8V after learning of “the deal” 26 Dec ‘00

• Hi David. I would appreciate if you would refrain from discussing on the air or mentioning to Mike Guernsey anything about his agreement to go off HF for a time. It just makes enforcement more difficult and it doesn’t need to be discussed on the bands. Thanks [Why the secrecy, ”Dickhead”?]

Riley to David now WA1BHV 6 Dec ‘00

• To all you ass holes that tried to get me off the air it is 9 months off and that was a voluntary thing. Ill be back so keep sticking you head up hollinhworths ass and fz fuck off YOU burr headed prick YOU LOOK LIKE YOU GOT SOME JIGGABOO IN YA you sure got the mouth for it Im sure glad hollingworth don’t beleve every thing is told…AND PEE WEE GET A LIFE!!! [sic]

John KD7KBL relaying “rec.radio.amateur.misc” message from Mike ND8V to Riley & Co. 2 Dec ‘00

• ND8V Got into it with AC5IU…. Mike came on and in effect drove him off the frequency. Every time Dean tried to listen in his QSO Mike talked over the other party, and then accused Dean of QRMing him. Bullies we don’t need on Amateur Radio.

Jon W1BWV to Riley 3 Oct ‘00

• He’s back at it Riley, and I don’t think he’ll stop till you remove his license.

Nedra KK5PN to Riley about Mike ND8V 11 Apr ‘00

• If this guy isn’t one of the top ten—he should be.

Ed K1LNC to Riley about Mike ND8V 20 Apr ‘99

• I am writing to you in regards to a ham operator (ND8V Mike) who on said dates (Feb.11^th – Feb. 18^th) without regard for other ham operators did willfully and maliciously interfere with the Shriner’s Hospital in Florida. [Emphasis was in the original.]

Harold KA0SAB to Riley 18 Mar ‘99

shot accros the bow maybe

Tuesday, March 3, 2009
Someone Posted this in a Comment section
This is the actually letter from my understanding, there is rumoured that I wrote the letter, the truth is I had been at work all day, and secondly If either side of this little war thinks that this is "fake" then continue what your doing and see what happens, me I could really careless about 14.275 MHz.

GOOD LUCK IN THE CONTEST!!

***************************************

Normally I would not get involved in what on the surface appears to be a "he said/she said" type of dispute. I am not going to comment as to who was on air first on Sunday -- but both sides are advised that I have tapes of the entire afternoon -- and these tapes did not come from either side (at this point I wouldn't trust a single thing given to me by either side -- as both sides have proven to be so intent upon proving that they are "right" and the other side is "wrong" that they will do and say just about anything to further their cause -- however warped that cause may be). I do feel, however, that some guidance is necessary (that and the fact that I have just about reached the end of my rope with all the players in this little drama!).

Randy -- I don't particularly like what Karol says on the air -- but that does not mean that you (or anyone else) has the right to try to drive him off. I have spent hours listening to tapes (hours that I will never get back, mind you!) and to tell you the truth, even if I did have jurisdiction over Karol (which I DO NOT) nothing that I have heard thus far rises to the level of an actionable complaint. For future reference, in determining what is or is not legal over the air, it depends on what he is saying. The FCC regulates obscenity . . . but general cursing and references to body parts (while certainly obnoxious) does not necessarily rise to the level of obscene speech. Likewise, calling the President names and making general anti-American comments (including comments regarding wishing the terrorists would attack us again and the like), while a sure sign of a lack of sensitivity (not to mention maturity), does not rise to the level of obscene or hate speech either.

Indeed, were Karol an American, his speech would fall squarely under the 1st Amendment -- you know that thing many of our forefathers fought and died for (not to mention our troops overseas right now). When you call yourself patriotic, built within that statement is the acceptance of the Constitution and all it entails -- free speech is one of the cornerstones of that fine document. It doesn't mean only the speech YOU agree with; or only the speech that the majority of folks agree with; or even only speech that isn't offensive to most mature, rational adults. It means ALL speech -- the good, the bad, and yes, even the ugly (as Karol is quite often want to spout). (Ok, before you decide to shoot back at me -- yes, there are some types of speech that are restricted. No shouting fire in a crowded theatre or hate speech -- but those are clearly defined by the courts and nothing Karol has said thus far falls into those categories.)

I have requested that Karol tone down his "act" -- (and if you don't get that it is an "act" -- you missed the whole point of his exercise with you and your buddies at 14.275. He is TRYING to incite you -- and succeeding admirably as you all have fallen into the trap.) However, I can promise you that he will/has not responded favorably to my request. He is going to continue the "act" -- and you guys thus far have demonstrated that you are going to continue falling into his trap. What does that say about the cognitive abilities of the Americans as they are all being led around by a master manipulator.

I sure wish we could regulate stupidity -- but it just isn't within the current confines of the rules. If it were, every single one of the actors here would be slapped with a fine just for being stupid/gullible and wasting my time (not to mention the years that Riley wasted trying to bring you guys back in line). What is within the confines of the rules, however is that fact that I can (AND WILL) enforce the rules against any Americans who cause harmful interference to Karol (and any of the folks who elect to engage him in QSOs). Let me repeat that so everyone understands it -- RETALIATORY JAMMING WILL NOT BE TOLERATED AND IS IN VIOLATION OF THE RULES!

I hope you all got my message here -- I have just about had it with the juvenile antics on the part of the American licensees. By the way, playing bulletins and tapes of a deceased licensee repeatedly in an effort to tie up the frequency so that Karol (and others) cannot use it actually does rise to the level of malicious interference -- and is subject to a possible enforcement action. Likewise, I won't even go into the ridiculous sound effects, endless playing of music, and general pre-pubescent behavior that quite a number of folks engage in on a daily basis at 14.275 -- again, all in an attempt to prevent Karol from engaging in QSOs. It needs to stop and needs to stop right now!

Can you tell I'm pissed? If you haven't yet figured it out let me clue you in here -- this behavior either stops now or everyone involved will find themselves on the receiving end of enforcement letters. This is an absolute disgrace -- I know kindergartners that have shown a higher degree of maturity than the whole bunch of you!!

Laura

Laura L. Smith, Esq. | 1270 Fairfield Road, Gettysburg, PA 17325 | 717-338-2577 (phone) | 717-338-2574 (fax)

• It is really disappointing to me to hear that the stumpjumpers who willfully interfere with the mobiles and maritime mobiles knew ahead of the time that the mobiles on 14.302.5 were going to receive letters! [Ed.: Emphasis is in the original] … It’s also sad to know that private comments put on your recorder by one of our personal mobile friends were quoted by Mike – ND8V the very next day before you even returned the phone call of the ham who had left the comment. He didn’t seem bothered by this, but I find it disturbing. [And so do I….]

Nedra KK5PN to Riley 13 Mar ‘99

• There are a few hams which are causing the most interference and discontent. ND8V being the worst offender that I have heard…. There are several in the group of instigators…. I have heard this same bunch on 3901 discussing their methods for QRMing.

Grady N3IEW to Riley 5 Feb ‘99

• Nothing wrong with this thread that a little QRM won't fix... eh Mike?

Kent KB9YZL after Mikee seriously SPAMmed the thread in “The Life of Riley” on eHAM.net 1 Oct ‘03

• The primary negative forces on 20 … are … ND8V. Whenever the madness subsides these folks almost always stir the pot, play old tapes/SoundBlaster noise creations, employ filthy language, bait their enemies and revel in the ensuing riots – these are the major, perhaps the singularly most negative forces in Amateur Radio and they stimulate many unidentified stations to join in the madness with no fear of retrobution [sic].

Randy W7CPA to Riley [before he went over to the ‘dark side’ himself, ~due to Riley’s inaction] 18 Dec ‘98